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  • fide_champ
    12-23 02:57 AM
    My wife went for H4 visa on Dec 19. I booked flight ticket on 28th. So it seems like I need to postpone the date by at least a week.

    Your comments are welcome...Thanks!!

    That's too short a wait. You have to give atleast 10 working days to be safe. It takes 7 working days for many people these days and if you are lucky you can get it sooner than that.

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  • never_giveup
    09-17 01:52 PM
    I am not seeing any movement in the video. I can just see the American Eagle on the screen? any idea whats going on.. ? ??

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  • insbaby
    07-18 03:51 PM
    when i spoke i didnt speak to normal CS rep they forwarded to me Info officer at Nebraska service center , now the key point is they clearly informed us that they have withdrawn the earlier notice and they said they have to open these july files. If they have just completed june filings they wouldnt have even touched july ones for sure. May be the ones returned which are very small in number are for casing whose dates are not current . for ex. if some one has sent app in normal pririty post expecting to reach on july 2 but reached early and got rejected it happened. so its pretty clear none of us have got the files back , all of three attorneys to comp said the same , my friends attorneys said the same , so we dont get in to too many things now , lets wait till next week or around 25th if we still dont receive then they asked me call back so that they can escalate this , she claims even when they reject they have to create a rejection letter and she clearly told that she was not aware that NSC did that type for these July ones.

    Are we looking to get the packages back?

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  • 485Mbe4001
    02-01 05:20 PM
    maybe we should have a 'sounding board' section where such threads can be started where you can cirb all you want about desi companies/consultants and other issues you want to get out of your system. You do realize that many people read these threads. Spritied discussions are great but upto a certain point and if they help the cause.

    We are a small community here and all of us are stuck in a problem we DID NOT create. we are a part of a system that is broken. Instead of crying about problems, lets try and figure out ways to solve one for a change.

    if people cannot contribute financially, conrtibute your time and talk to people about IV. Try to meet sucessful/influential immigrants and see if they can help us out, see if they can help us with their contacts. Try to seek people who are stuck in this mess and educate them about it. Get leads on people who can help us out.

    Start a thread that mentions what you have done to help IV maybe people will learn from that


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  • a1b2c3
    01-08 06:48 PM
    That seems to be the way where this is heading. Would this be another july fiasco?.

    pray that such things never happen in future. eb3-i will never walk again, if it happens. its a recipe for disaster.

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  • go_gc_way
    06-07 09:41 PM
    I think , of what Mr. Logic Life said summarizes and represents the state of us all , who wish to obtain a Green Card and are on H, L ect. VISAS.

    I think, It is absolutely right "We deserve fair and speedy immigration.".

    Opportunity of working in America is great ... but when skilled professionals will have to choose H1,L1 or GC , they land in an unpleasant experience, that goes on for ever until they obtain their GC.


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    03-29 02:31 PM
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  • summitpointe
    07-20 11:27 AM
    7+ years in US

    Changed Employer in late 2004 and filed for GC. So my priority date is early 2005. Old Employer did not file GC so forced to leave him.

    Now in retrogesstion. Employer takes lot of his share in the billing rate. If we need to go for a good billing rate, vendors think I'm new to US as I don't have GC. Lot many Dependents after getting GC started working and so supply for software professionals are more. Demand meets the supply and so the billing rate is down. Most of the vendors prefers only locals. Forced to take job whatever comes first.

    Have a grown up child and she has to start his school. Well educated wife not able to work and wasting time and energy. Not able to decide other than being in US. Keep reading the forums and whenever some bill comes up hope rises, but all now in vain. From now will not expect or believe anything from US congress/senate until President signs it.


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  • GCSOON-Ihope
    12-12 02:18 PM
    Again, thank you all!
    As a matter of fact, I am going back to France for 2 weeks next Sunday.
    That's my first time there in 8 years...
    I haven't told anybody yet about what happened recently.
    They don't even know the whole story. Yes, all those years I had to lie, especially to my parents:I didn't want them to worry about me.
    I was always saying: "I am fine, just fine.."
    I am waiting for my friends and family to ask me the usual question:
    "So, how come you don't have your GC yet? What are you doing?"
    Then, I will have something to show them!

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  • alterego
    12-22 06:45 PM
    Guys, please make mention about the wastage of estimated over half a million visas over the last decade due to bureaucratic and processing inefficiencies at the USCIS, while we have been waiting patiently.
    The best outcome for us in all honesty would be a visa recapture legislation to get those of us at the 485 stage out of the system.


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  • Gravitation
    03-13 10:20 AM
    Looks like I need to take up a priests job somewhere and file another GC in E4 category which is current. God willing, I might get GC soon.
    I remember a few "shlokas" from Gita... that should suffice. I wish they allowed interfiling from EB3 to EB4.

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  • satyasaich
    04-07 01:37 PM
    drop and drop makes an ocean
    just added my $200 again today. and urging all the like minded people to come forward, even if we contributed before.
    bottom line is we have to help ourself and join the hands
    once again, thanks IV and let's keep the momentum.

    "The tough gets going when going gets tough"
    we all have a strong will and tough mind that can make a difference


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  • waitingGC
    01-31 12:34 PM
    What plannet r u from that u donno abt desi companies and LC sell ? myself a human from earth :-)
    desi companies r indian companies and they sell LC openly , Eb2 pre approved labor has a rate approx 20k USD .

    desi companies sell H1b also , u pay money and they will get it for u , see for example .

    I am not in the IT industry so I have no idea about these Desi companies till today. If they sell EB2 LC for 20k USD, how come there are still so many people waiting instead of buying a GC?

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  • akhilmahajan
    04-28 04:26 PM
    Its a law and if one follows it, there is nothing wrong in it.

    As Chandu has mentioned, lets not interpret it the way we want. Its a law, and it gives us the option to have some kind of liberty. If you have not done anything wrong, and have followed the law, eventually everything will fall in place. Although during this journey we will have to face some tough challenges but in the end we will win it.

    So, lets all get together in getting ourselves heard.


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  • jonty_11
    05-24 05:51 PM
    I did not expect this to go so soooo badly..I have to get out of here....get a drink, my return tickets ....etc..

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  • anirudh74
    02-06 02:21 PM
    Logiclife, I am sorry you are wrong.You don't need to post hour by hour update, but the update you posted today on Aman's meetings , help people to understand what really IV is doing and are necessary atleast once a fortnight.I am sure you are working in a corporate world and drive projects.The first rule on driving a big project is status meetings once every week.This helps all the stakeholders.

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  • gsc999
    07-19 04:17 PM
    The donations that we make to IV will be part of the general corpus which will be used for lobbying. As one core member pointed out 99% of that fund is utilized for lobbying, I am guessing remaining 1% is spent on hosting IV website.

    If you guys want to help Aman we could write a personal check favoring Aman. What do you guys think?

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  • bigboy007
    04-27 12:14 AM
    Not sure about the increase in fees here is what i have seen comparing it to INA and subsections...

    1. Higher wage requirements defs being added to definitions seciton in INA [Immigration and Nationality Act], Requirement of Internet posting, wage determination.

    2. 90 Days being replaced as 180 days for non displacement option

    3. No consulting for H1B employees based on the Recruitment (F) section.

    4. SEC 102. I states if no. of employees > 50 , sum of [H1B, L(1,2)(L1A, L1 , L2 Perdef 101(a)(15)(L)))] should not exceed 50% of No. of employees. No more H1B's

    5. Sec 111. mispresentation period increased to 24 months from 12 months, USCIS will conduct audits for all employers if no. of employees > 100 and no. of H1 employees > 15% , Publish publicly those reports

    6. Failure to meet a condition increase from 1000 to 2000 , failure for misrepresentation increased from 5000 to 10000. Employer will be liable for employees lost wages and benefits.

    7. illegal : H1B non immigrant to pay a penalty for ceasing an employment with employer before the agreed date, failure to provide common benefits health , life , disability , insurance , retirement , savings, cash/noncash bonus etc...

    8. with in 90 days of enacting S887 , secretary of labor will provide website to post these positions on labor department website.

    9. stream line of job classifications and roles with 1 year of enacting of S887...

    10. DOL can hire 200+ employees to fill these requirements ;)

    + l1's I have not gone through....

    Newer version is - as should've been expected - more protectionist than before.

    1) It prohibits H1B workers from working in contract positions.There is a redundant provision for the L1 visa as well (there is already a law which does this for L1). However it doesn't prevent American companies from keeping these contract workers in India or elsewhere and co-ordinate the work through web-conferencing, video conferencing, VPN/VNC etc.

    2) It increases H1B fees by another 1000 dollars. There will be the added cost of advertising on DOL website. Also, the legal costs of navigating the audits. It also enables Tort attorneys to sue the companies on behalf of labor unions such as IEEE-USA, PG, Bright Future Jobs, Zazona etc. In essence it makes the whole visa program unviable. American companies cannot participate in the visa program without letting the DOL and the Tort attorneys poking their noses in the daily functioning of Corporate America. Imagine which company will apply for H1B when you'll have ads airing on TV from Tort attorneys - 'Have you been displaced by H1B worker? Call 1-800-TORT-ATTORNEY'?

    3) It has a whole gamut of so-called 'H1B/L1B worker protections'. Unless and until the complaining foreign worker's visa status/GC status is protected against employer retaliation, these provisions will remain only on paper, as foreigner workers facing the prospect of forced departure from the country will not complain - extra worker protections or not. They might as well scrap these provisions and save some trees in the process!

    4) It retains the provision that H1B/L1 worker must be provided all originals for H1B, Green Card etc. However this will be moot, as there won't be many H1B/L1 workers left in the US to take the benefit. They would already have moved to their home countries, brining the salaries down in their home countries die to excess supply. This combined with technical enablers are going to make outsourcing HOT. I think it's a good time to invest in the stocks of these outsourcing companies. Their returns are going to increase exponentially in a year. I am not surprised, if these companies send a 'Thank You' note to Senators Durbin and Grassley for making such a windfall possible.

    If this year only 44,000 visas were used after half a month, wait until this law passes. There will already 10,000 or less visa applications. On a short term basis wages will sky-rocket, when companies are already struggling to make the ends meet. This will definitely make the usage of technological innovations such as the ones mentioned in point 1 more appealing to the companies. In the long run Outsourcing will become cheaper and more attractive.

    Faced with accute worker shortage and unreasonably high-salaries driven scarcity in an economy under recession, Companies will have only 3 options. 1) Announce bankruptcy and get out of business salvaging what they can 2) Leverage technology to do outsourcing circumventing the need for visas 3) Beg the government for another 'Stimulus' and more borrowed money from the Chinese to pay the salaries.

    This will hit hard the humanitarian immigration for refugees, asylees etc. USCIS is a government department run on visa application fees. As H1B fee-base reduces US government will have to appropriate more funds to USCIS to keep these programs running. The cost of these programmes will increasingly be borne by the American tax-payer. As jobs keep getting outsourced at a much faster speed tax-base formed by these H1B/L1 workers will shift to other economies benefiting them, the government will have to increases the taxes to make up for the difference. No doubt this will increase the tax burden on an average American - even those who had nothing to do with H1B, pro- or against.

    The day this law passes will be a great day for Outsourcing, and a sad day for America.

    11-01 05:15 PM
    I hear people say that there is reverse brain drain. But this is not completely true. I cannot quantify in numbers but there are certainly few people, I know of, who have migrated to countries like Canada and Australia.

    I will not call it as reverse brain drain but diversion of brain drain to other pastures that may be worthy from individuals standpoint.

    Reasons could be endless, to name a few - stagnancy in career growth, frustration for wait for GC, inability to invest further in housing for job insecurity, longer time for family union (ageing parents), save kids from western culture, etc.. etc.

    I have heard one of the above reasons, while there could be more, from people who want to vent out their frustations. But rest assured very few choose to put it to action at the end of the day.

    My two cents - don't bash others. I believe that all of us go through this turmoil at some point or the other.

    Let's stay focussed on what you want. Most of us, if not all, are here for better life, career growth, money ;), etc and if other countries offer better prospects and meet majority of ones expectations, most likely, we will consider the options. I think, to a certain extent, we are patriotic to our ownself or if may call - opportunist.

    Given a scenario. EU Blue card gives better option (though not sure if it will :p) flow to newer pastures is inevitable and unstoppable. This may not appeal to 100% of the readers but it's one of the faces of dice.

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